ZECHARIAH 5
JUDGMENT AND RAPTURE
Here and there on this website, I have referenced Zechariah 5. This article is intended to fully explain its
symbolism. First, the judgment commences.

"Then I turned, and lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a flying roll. And he said unto me, What
seest thou? And I answered, I see a flying roll; the length thereof is twenty cubits, and the breadth
thereof ten cubits. Then said he unto me, This is the curse that goeth forth over the face of the whole
earth: for every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side according to it; and every one that
sweareth shall be cut off as on that side according to it. I will bring it forth, saith the Lord of hosts, and it
shall enter into the house of the thief, and into the house of him that sweareth falsely by My name: and it
shall remain in the midst of his house, and shall consume it with the timber thereof and the stones
thereof." (Zech. 5:1-4).

Because the roll is flying, it is a heavenly symbol. It comes from God. In his tract, "The Flying Roll," Ben
Roden called the flying roll the open Bible.

""Jeremiah was commanded by the Lord to take "a roll of a book" (Jer. 36:2), and write therein all the
words that He had spoken to him for Israel, Judah, and all nations. The words Jeremiah was to write in
the roll were God's words to His people, Israel and Judah, and all people of the nations. This roll of a
book Jeremiah wrote was the Lord's Words to us the Bible."

""Ten is a number figurative of universality. Twice ten is twenty or twice universal. This could mean the
word of God to ancient Israel and the world, (universal in her day) and again in the New Testament
period, our day – both B.C. and A.D. In other words, ten by ten is the Bible and twenty by ten is
representative of both Bibles – the Old and the New. Just as in Zechariah 4:11-14, the two olive trees,
one on each side of the "golden candlestick," are figurative of the Word of God to Zerubbabel, or Israel,
in both the Old and the New dispensations. The Word of God, ten by ten, is depicted as a closed book.
On the other hand, the Bible represented as twenty by ten symbolizes the Bible as an "open Book " with
the active Spirit of Prophecy at work (Rev. 12:17; 19:10)."" (Ben Roden, "The Flying Roll, Zechariah 5,"
1969, p. 12).

The outpouring of Bible truth which this flying roll represents brings forth a judgment on the wicked.
They fight the Bible truth message and are cursed for their blasphemy. The curse falls first on the
thieves, on this side of the Millennium Kingdom, "every one that stealeth shall be cut off as on this side
(of the Millennium) according to it (the curse)." Thieves, as a category, would include murderers, who
steal lives, and vandals, who steal the value of property.

After the Millennium, the curse falls on liars as well, "every one that sweareth (falsely) shall be cut off as
on that side according to it." As the Revelation says: "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the
abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and
all liars, shall have
their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
" (Rev. 21:8). The
category of liars includes hypocrites, who conceal their sins and presume to judge their fellow men. The
lie they tell is subtle: their actions imply that they are fit to be judges, but they, having sins not
confessed, are not worthy to judge their fellow men.

Stones are righteous servants of God, like Peter, who Christ called a stone. (See John 1:42; Matt. 16:16-
19). The house of God is a temple of lively (living) stones. "Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a
spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ." (1
Peter 2:5).

But it takes more than stones to build the house of God, it also takes timber. "And Solomon’s builders
and Hiram’s builders did hew them, and the stonesquarers: so they prepared timber and stones to build
the house (of God)." (1 Kings 5:18). The house of God is supported by great men, timbers. Timbers are
great trees that have been shaped to be useful.

Trees are great men, either good or evil. "To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them
beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they
might be called
trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that He might be glorified." (Is. 61:3).
"Behold, the Assyrian was a
cedar in Lebanon with fair branches, and with a shadowing shroud, and of an
high stature; and his top was among the thick boughs." (Ez. 31:3).

When a tree has been shaped to be useful and becomes a timber, it is very valuable. Stones are also
valuable. Timbers and stones can be used to build the temple of lively stones. But the curse of the flying
roll goes into the houses of each thief (before the Millennium) and each liar (after the Millennium) and
destroys even the righteous and the great men therein. "And it (the curse) shall remain in the midst of
his house, and shall consume it with the
timber thereof and the stones thereof." To escape the curse,
even the great and the righteous must separate themselves from the sinners of their families.

The curse is in the air now, it has been since the destruction of Koresh's flock.. "Wherefore hear the
word of the Lord, ye scornful men (who blaspheme God), that rule this people which is in Jerusalem (the
Christian church). Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death (for long, peaceful,
prosperous lives), and with hell are we at agreement (to go eventually, expecting a resurrection); when
the overflowing scourge shall pass through (the plagues fall), it shall not come unto us: for we have
made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves... your covenant with death shall be
disannulled (you will die when God wills), and your agreement with hell shall not stand (you are cursed,
the resurrection will not help you); when the overflowing scourge (the plagues) shall pass through, then
ye shall be trodden down by it. From the time that it (the curse of the flying roll) goeth forth it shall take
(kill) you: for morning by morning shall it pass (fly) over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation
only to understand the report (of who has died)." (Is. 28:14,15,18,19).

The next verses of Zechariah 5 show the pattern of the first rapture. (See No. 20, "The Rapture.") "Then
the angel that talked with me went forth, and said unto me, Lift up now thine eyes, and see what is this
that goeth forth. And I said, What is it? And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover,
This is their resemblance through all the earth. And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this
is a woman that sitteth in the midst of the ephah. And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the
midst of the ephah; and he cast the weight of lead upon the mouth thereof." (Zech. 5:5-8).

On the face of this verse, it doesn't mean much of anything. But let's look at the symbols. The ephah is
seen flying, like the angel messages of Rev. 14, therefore the ephah comes from God. "
And I saw
another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach
unto them that dwell
on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people, saying with a loud voice, Fear
God, and give glory to him; for the hour of His judgment is come... " (Rev. 14:6,7).

What is an ephah?  First, an ephah is a measuring basket for flour or grain. "Just balances, just weights,
a just ephah, and a just hin, shall ye have: I am the Lord your God, which brought you out of the land of
Egypt." (Lev. 19:38). Second, an ephah is used to store or transport grain. "And Jesse said unto David his
son, Take now for thy brethren an ephah of this parched corn, and these ten loaves, and run to the camp
to thy brethren..." (1 Sam. 17:17). So the "ephah that goeth forth" is a basket of a certain size, like our
bushel basket.

There is also a "he" who is speaking. He identifies the ephah, the resemblance of something, the
woman, the wickedness, and he casts something into the ephah and seals it up. A study of the text
shows that the "he" was the angel guiding Zechariah.

Taken together, the ephah and the angel are symbols of harvest. In parable, Christ likened the harvest
of the world to the wheat harvest. "Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I
will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but
gather the wheat into my barn." (Matt. 13:30). In explaining the parable, Christ said, "He that soweth the
good seed is the Son of man; the field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but
the tares are the children of the wicked one; the enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the
end of the world; and
the reapers are the angels." (Matt. 13:37-39).

An ephah is not used to gather the wheat into Christ's barn. The wheat is reaped on its stalks, tied in
bundles and taken into the barn just as it is, stalks, chaff and all. After the wheat is fully dried in the barn,
the bundles of wheat are taken to the threshing floor. There the bundles are beaten with a flail to
remove the wheat from the stalks. Then it is winnowed, to remove the chaff. "And now is not Boaz of our
kindred, with whose maidens thou wast? Behold, he winnoweth barley to night in the threshingfloor."
(Ruth 3:2). After this process, the cleaned wheat is gathered in a basket (ephah) and placed in its storage
area in the barn.

In Christ's parable, angels perform all of this process. First, angels reap the wheat, "the reapers are the
angels." Next, angels clean the grain. "The Son of man shall send forth His angels, and they shall gather
out of His kingdom all things that offend (stalks), and them which do iniquity (chaff); and shall cast them
into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous (cleaned
wheat) shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." (Matt.
13:41-43).

The angel who speaks in this scripture is a harvest angel, because he is casting something, which
should be clean wheat, into a harvest basket. "And he (the angel) said, This is wickedness. And he cast it
into the midst of the ephah..." Angels are beings who are in harmony with God from their first breath.
They are much different from men; all men, except Enoch and Christ, are sinners. "For all have sinned,
and come short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23).

The angel knows what should be in the harvest basket. He is throwing in what God told him to throw in.
But he has chosen to speak his mind, "This is wickedness." From our earthly viewpoint, the wheat, the
people, thrown into the ephah, are less sinful than 99% of their brethren. Most Christians would be very
impressed with their righteousness. Most angels would not be at all impressed. Fortunately, God judges
people on the basis of their hearts. Not one of the people cast into the basket at this beginning of the
gathering of God's Kingdom could pass the test of the 144,000, "for they are without fault before the
throne of God." (Rev. 14:4).

Immediately after the angel identifies the ephah, he utters one of the most cryptic statements found in
prophecy, "This is their resemblance through all the earth." A simple guess would be that the angel
refers to those in the basket. Is that correct?

The word "resemblance" occurs only once in the KJV Bible, only in this scripture. Two words from the
same root also occur only once. In the Old Testament, the word "resembled" is used to describe
Gideon's brethren. "Then said he unto Zebah and Zalmunna, What manner of men were they whom ye
slew at Tabor? And they answered, As thou art, so were they; each one
resembled the children of a king.
And he said, They were my brethren, even the sons of my mother: as the Lord liveth, if ye had saved
them alive, I would not slay you." (Judges 8:18,19). Gideon was the leader of Israel who, under God's
guidance, delivered the tribes of Israel from the Midianites and the Amalekites that oppressed them. His
brothers were part of his army. This use of "resembled" points to members of the tribes of Israel who
deliver the Kingdom of God.

In the New Testament, Christ used the word "resemble" in parable. "Then said he, Unto what is the
kingdom of God like? and whereunto shall I
resemble it? It is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man
took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air lodged in the
branches of it." (Luke 13:18). This use of the word "resemble" points to a tiny seed that produces a great
tree, the tiny beginning of God's Kingdom which takes over the entire earth. (See Dan. 2:44).

As a further clue, mustard seeds are symbols of faith. "And Jesus said unto them...
If ye have faith as a
grain of mustard seed
, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall
remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you." (Matt. 17:20). Faith is critically important, because
the judgment of the living is based on their faith. "And he (childless Abraham) believed in the Lord (who
promised Abraham descendants like the stars for multitude); and he (God) counted it to him (Abraham)
for righteousness." (Gen. 15:6). Those who believe that God will found the Kingdom He promised, and
strive to help Him, are found righteous enough to enter therein. That is righteousness by faith. (The
mountain is the purified church that forms the Kingdom of God which, by faith, moves to Jerusalem,
Israel.)

From the clues given by words with the same root as resemblance, we can say that we are dealing with
people of the tribes of Israel, who are to found God's Kingdom because of their faith, their belief in
God's promises. Who are they? I don't know their names, but when the ephah was lifted up, they were
serving God, faithfully and zealously, and their sins were as nothing compared with their service.

Before the people are cast into the ephah, someone lifts up a talent of lead. "And, behold, there was
lifted up a talent of lead..." A talent is both a measurement and a message. (For example, the living water
stones, the 144,000 hailstones of Rev. 16:21, each weighed about a talent, each had a ministry.) So this
talent of lead tells us exactly
when the ephah was lifted up. Here is the scripture again.

"And he said, This is an ephah that goeth forth. He said moreover, This is their resemblance through all
the earth. And, behold, there was lifted up a talent of lead: and this is a woman that sitteth in the midst of
the ephah. And he said, This is wickedness. And he cast it into the midst of the ephah; and he cast the
weight of lead upon the mouth thereof." (Zech. 5:5-8).

Note first that the woman is sitting in the ephah
before the angel throws the wickedness into it. But she
is seen there
after the talent of lead is lifted up. And note that the angel attempts to close the mouth
(opening) of the ephah with the physical weight of the lead after the wickedness has been cast in. The
events that correspond to this prophecy took place in 1993.

First, the FBI burned the Branch Davidian church on April 19, 1993. On May 12, 1993, the site was
bulldozed and, because the bullets were not removed from the concrete floor of Koresh's interior
bunker before the bulldozing, they were spread around the site. The first lead samples were taken on
May 21, 1993 and the site was quickly quarantined for lead contamination. Thus, "there was lifted up a
talent of lead." Between these two dates, I began parking my old Volvo at the end of the Baty farm
driveway and selling Joe Robert's pictures, answering questions, and giving away information about the
legal attempts to seize the property. I began representing the church in court on May 25, 1993. I'm the
woman in the ephah. What I did to get in that harvest basket is explained in No. 2, "About Amo," No. 9,
"An Honest Church History," and No. 4, "The Coverup." (Basically, I did everything God asked me to do
with all my might.)

The Texas Rangers investigated the fire and shipped the hard evidence they uncovered to the FBI
Crime Lab in Washington, DC. (The FBI investigated and exonerated themselves.) Most of the rest of the
evidence was stolen during the lead contamination cleanup. Because there was no evidence to the
contrary, the lie that the followers of Koresh committed suicide was allowed to stand through half a
dozen government investigations. That's the "message" of that talent of lead. So both judgment and
harvest began in the spring of 1993 and both ended almost immediately, because God's judgment on
Koresh and his followers was hidden behind government lies about suicide.

Note that the angel "cast the weight of lead upon the mouth" of the ephah. The abrupt ending of the
gathering was God's plan. After all, the sixth angel message had not even sounded yet in the spring of
1993. I began publishing it the next spring. (The beginning of the gathering of the 144,000 actually takes
place during the third trumpet, see No. 56, "The Third Trumpet.") Two warnings took place in the spring
of 1993, a warning that God's judgments have begun (the judgment on the followers of Koresh), and a
warning that we are in the time of gathering (the appearance of the flying ephah).

There was also a familiar pattern evident in the history of the church, a pattern which will be repeated by
Christ's King and the Holy Ghost during the latter trumpets. First came the message of Christ (through V.
T. Houteff), then the wave offering for the living (the flying ephah raised up before God), then the
outpouring of the Holy Ghost (this message). (Also see No. 65, "Harvest Timing" for a full discussion of
the pattern.)

The chapter concludes with a prophecy of the final disposition of the ephah."Then lifted I up mine eyes,
and looked, and, behold, there came out two women, and the wind was in their wings; for they had wings
like the wings of a stork: and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heaven. Then said I to
the angel that talked with me, Whither do these bear the ephah? And he said unto me, To build it an
house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base." (Zech. 5:9-11).

A stork is a great and powerful but unclean bird. (See Leviticus 11.) These are powerful but imperfect
women. Do not think the women worse than simply imperfect because storks are unclean. The people
God protects and strengthens are likened to eagles, also an unclean bird. (See Is. 40:31.)

In preparation for this moving and setting up the ephah, I have preserved a majority of the artifacts from
my years at the Branch Davidian church and legal defense of the church property, the Branch Davidian
files, and some artifacts from the ministries that preceded mine. When the right time comes, the two
women will set up a museum. That the women have the wings of storks means that they will know the
right time. "Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times..." (Jer. 8:7).

The great city Babylon was build in the land of Shinar. (See Dan. 1:1,2). Since the true messenger has
been exiled from the church property, there is only a false message there and the church property has
become as Babylon in God's eyes. The museum of the true messengers will be established near the
church property, which is east of Waco, Texas.

Amo Paul Bishop Roden